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<p>[QUOTE="TFR-oldschool, post: 906107, member: 485"]!!!!!!!!!??ʹ??? B5 ????Ѻ?һ? ?ͧ?ҡ?? ??ٺ ?Ѻ ???ö??觔?????ͧ ??????? DENSO(VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON?) </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.oknation.net/blog/preecha.../09/12/entry-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oknation.net/blog/preecha.../09/12/entry-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.oknation.net/blog/preecha.../09/12/entry-1</a></p><p>1 ??????????¶֧?????ö??????Ǣͧ DENSO </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>..... VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX, TRITON..... </p><p>?֧?ҡ?? ? ?ٺ ???????? ?????????͢?С?Ѻö " </p><p><br /></p><p>??ٻ????ͧ??? ????Դ????繨ӹǹ?ҡ </p><p>????ҡ?ù???Ѻ??辺?ö????? ???? BOSCH ?? FORD MAZDA </p><p>2 ?????ʹ͢???稨?ԧ??? </p><p>? ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ?????????͢?С?Ѻö ? </p><p>??????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ </p><p>????ѹ??ʹ??? B5 ???????ҧ??褹??ѧ????ǹ?˭????? </p><p>???Դ?ҡ ??ͺ????ͧ?ҡ????͡Ẻ ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ </p><p>?????ç ?ͧ????ѷ DENSO </p><p>????????ѹ B 5 ?????Ѻ?һ???ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ </p><p>?ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç?ͧ???ǡ? DENSO </p><p>3 ????"??е?鹵????Ե?ӹ֡?ͧ????ѷ DENSO ??? TOYOTA" </p><p>????? ?Ե?ӹ֡ ?????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ѧ?? </p><p><br /></p><p>?Corporate Social Responsibility? ????? ??? </p><p><br /></p><p>? ?š??âͧ????ѷ ? ?Ӥѭ?ҡ???? ? ???Ե?ͧ?١???" </p><p><br /></p><p>4 ?ѧ???¤?û?г?? 㹾ĵԡ????ͧ ????ѷ </p><p>DENSO ???????Ե?????? " ?ѵ?췴?ͧ" </p><p><br /></p><p>??繤س??? "???Ե?ͧ???? ???¡??? ˹ٷ??ͧ??" </p><p><br /></p><p>???ͺ???ͧ????¹ valve ? scv ?ҡ???? 4-5 </p><p>Ẻ????????????????ö ????Һ </p><p><br /></p><p>??觷????ö ? ?ٺ ???????? ??????" </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>5 ?ͤ??????????㹡?? ???????·???ѧ </p><p>???????ö??Ҷ֧?????????? </p><p>? ???Ե?ͧ????" ?դ???ҡ???? "?š??âͧ????ѷö ? </p><p><br /></p><p>?ҡ??÷??????ö¹????? ?к???????Ǣͧ DENSO</p><p>(VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON...)</p><p>??Ǩ???ҡ??</p><p>??ٺ???????鹢????? ??? ??Ѻö</p><p>???ѹ??????ͺʹͧʵ??췵Դ?ҡ????ͧ????ҴѺ</p><p>"??ٻ????ͧ¹??????繨ӹǹ?ҡ???</p><p>- ????ҡ????????鹢ͧ?ҡ?? VALVE ?SCV ?Դ?Ѵ</p><p>??Ǩ?ͺ???ͧ????ѧ???</p><p>1 östart ?Դ?ҡ ????º?ѹ??觶֧?? start ?Դ</p><p>???Ҥѹ??觨дѺ????Ѵ?ͺ?????ԧ???ŧ</p><p>2 ?????§????ͧ¹??Դ???Ԣ?? start ???§?ѧ "?? ??"</p><p>???????§?????ࢡ ??????º?ѹ??????§???????</p><p>???????ͧ?ҡVALVE ? SCV ???????Դ?Ѵ?????</p><p>"???????ö?ѡ???дѺ?ç?ѹ????ѹ??ҧ???????</p><p>??餧????? 30 MPa ????ͺ?Թ??"</p><p>-?繷?????ѧࡵ??? ?о??ҡ?Ô?ٺ????????? ?Ѻö??????????????Ƿ???Ե?ҡ????ѷ DENSO </p><p>(?ҡ???ٺ????Դ??鹡Ѻö??????????????? ?ͧBOSCH </p><p>?? FORD MAZDA ??駷??ö??????????ѹ B5)</p><p>(DENSO ?????Ԣ?Է??? ?к? ??????? ?Ҩҡ BOSCH </p><p>??ë????Ԣ?Է????繡?ë??? KNOW HOW</p><p><br /></p><p>?¼????ö?ѧ?դ??????繷??е?ͧ??ö????Դ??ͺ????ͧ?ѧ? ???? ???ҹ??˹?㹪??Ե??Ш??ѹ ????ѧ??????Ѻ???????????ѹ????"?ҡ?? ?ٺ ??????"???ҡ ??駺???ѷ????Ե ???? ˹??§ҹ?Ҫ??÷??????Ǣ?ͧ</p><p>????ҡ?ҡ?Ô?ٺ???????? ?Դ??鹵??? ???? ??Ѻö ?ѹ??????ͺʹͧ ? ????Ҩ???????Դ????????§?????Դ?غѵ??˵????ѹ? ??µ?ͪ??Ե??з?Ѿ???Թ?ͧ??ЪҪ?????????ǹ???</p><p>??????ö????ջѭ????????ҹ?ѹ?????????躹??ͧ???㹢?й???·????Ѻ????Ѻ???????Ź???? ???????ͧ?????????ǧ?֧??????ʹ??¢ͧ??ЪҪ?? ???????ǹ??????ҧ???</p><p>??Сͺ?Ѻ?ҡ?Ó?ٺ ?Ѻ ???????鹢??ö??觔?????Դ???㹻???ȡ???????? 25 ????? </p><p>?????ٵ?ͧ??С???????"??µ?????ѡ??" </p><p><a href="http://www.naewna.com/news.asp?ID=384" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.naewna.com/news.asp?ID=384" rel="nofollow">http://www.naewna.com/news.asp?ID=384</a></p><p><br /></p><p>??????????觡?Ѻ ö??µ?? ??ѧ????Ե??ӡ????ҵðҹ ??????? 25 ??Ҫԡ??ҹ???䫵?</p><p><br /></p><p>?????ҡ??????¢ͧEU ?˹???к????</p><p>"?ҧ????????ͧ¹???ѧ??ش?ӧҹ㹢?з??Ѻ????"</p><p>????ҡ?ôѧ????? ?ç?Ѻ?????ö㹻?.?·?????ҡ?Ô?ٺ ???????? ???????????ͧ????ҴѺ start ?ҡ</p><p>??ٻ????ͧ???</p><p>- ö¹???????????????? DENSO ??? HP3 ?????ѹ</p><p>"?Դ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ?Ѻ??ҧ?ҡ?? ?????ѹ???"</p><p>?ѭ?ҹ???Դ??鹵????? 2548 ???ҡ??? 3 ????????</p><p>?Ե?ӹ֡㹡???Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ѧ??????????</p><p>TOYOTA (VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,COMMUTOR)</p><p>-DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa</p><p>ISUZU (D-MAX , MU7)</p><p>-DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش 180 Mpa</p><p>MITSUBISHI (TRITON)</p><p>-DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش180 Mpa</p><p>??ǹ??????????Ţͧ BOSCH (MAZDA,FORD)</p><p>- BOSCH Cp3 ??3?١?ٺ?????ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa</p><p>(??з?????????????????????繵?????ҧ?ͧ?????ҹ ??????????ŢͧBOSCH</p><p>*** ????? b100??ͧ???Ѻ??÷??ͺ???????ǡ?)</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>????? ??Ҥ???ͧ?ҷӤ??????ѡ?Ѻ??? </p><p><br /></p><p>SCV (SUCTION CONTROL VALVE) ?ѹ??..... </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>?ҡ?ٻ??ҹ?? ???ٻ ?ͧ DENSO ????????ö VIGO ,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON..... </p><p><br /></p><p>SCV ?? ??˹?ҷ??? ????ҳ????ѹ???١?ٴ?ҡ?ѧ????ѹ ??ҹ??ͧ???? ???ͻ?????ҳ ????ѹ </p><p>???????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????ҧ??????? </p><p>?¡??????????????????ҳ????ѹ???????????? </p><p>?? ?Դ?ҡ??????????Ẻ SLIDING ?ͧ VALVE ? SCV ?Ǻ????Ҩҡ ecu </p><p>???º??º ??????㨧????? ??? scv ?????? ??еٹ?? 㹺?ҹ??? ???????ç??ҧ?????ҧ TANK ?纹?? ??л?????? ???ͤǺ???????ҳ??? ??????????????????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????????????͡??? 㹺?ҹ(??ǩմ) </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>?չ??????? scv ?ѹ?Դ??????????Դ?Ѵ????? ?֧????? </p><p>???˹? ?ͧ valve ? SCV ????㹵??˹觷???????????? ?????Ѻ??еٹ?ӷ???ҹ??? ??? VALVE ?ѹ??ҧ ???????չ????ż?ҹ????㹻??? ??????оѧ?? </p><p>??? VALVE ? scv ???????ѹ????ѹ?Դ?Ѵ ?ҡ????֡???Դ????(?֡?д?ҹ???º?) ?֧??????ջ???ҳ????ѹ?????һ??????????????Ѻ ?????????ͺ??? LOAD ?֧??????Դ ?ç?ѹ?????????ҧ??????ǹ??¡????ç?ѹ??????? </p><p>?Դ??( ABNORMAL PRESSURE) ??? </p><p>....PRESSURE SENSOR ??????躹?ҧ?֧???ѭ?ҳ价?? ECU ?֧?????ٻ????ͧ??? < /FONT> </p><p>??ʶҹ??ó?????Դ " ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ??? ??ٻ????ͧ???" ??? ?ҡ??? RESEARCH ????? ?Դ????ʶҹ??ó? </p><p>1 ???ѹ?????????? </p><p>2 ???ѹ????͡?ҡ?? </p><p>3 ???ѹ??觵??Ѻö </p><p>4 ????Թ?ѹ ??? </p><p>5 START ?Դ?ҡ ????ͧ??? ?ҴѺ ??ͧ???ѹ??觨֧ START ?Դ </p><p>??ǹ?˭? ?о???? ??ٻ????ͧ??? ???????? </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>???ͧ?ҡ ??????ҡ??ѹ??觹?? ??ҵ?ͧ????ç?Դ?ҡ????ͧ </p><p><br /></p><p>ecu sensor ???˹觤ѹ??? ????????? valve ? scv ?Դ ?ҡ???????????ջ???ҳ????ѹ????һ????ҡ??? </p><p>?? scv ?ѹ?ѹ?Դ?Ѵ???ͧ?ҡ ? ????֡?д?ҹ???º? ? </p><p><br /></p><p>?֧????? ?ջ???ҳ????ѹ???任??????????????????????????? ͺ ?֧ ???????????ç?ѹ价???ҧ ??????? ???¡??? ???????( DESIRED) </p><p>pressure sensor (1) ???? ??躹?ҧ?? monitor (real time fuel pressure) ????ѹ?Ѻ????? ?ç?ѹ???¡?????????? </p><p><br /></p><p>?֧???ѭ?ҳ??Ѻ价?? ecu ?????ż? ??Т???? </p><p>IDLE MODE ???? </p><p>?ѡ??????ͧ¹?? ??????ѡ?Ҫ??Ե???Ѻ </p><p><br /></p><p>??ٻ????ͧ?????? ?ٺ ???????? ???ѹ???????ա?õͺʹͧ?ͧ????ͧ¹?? </p><p>㹢?з??????????Ѻ </p><p><br /></p><p>??ش?????????ͧ???٨??֧ ????͡Ẻ???Ҵ?ҵðҹ???????Ѵ???ѧ????????Դ??? ?Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç??? </p><p>??¡???֡?ͧ valve ? scv ??? ?Դ????֡ </p><p>?? ???˹? ??ҹ???º? ??ҹ?? ??????֡???ͺǧ????ͧ????????? VALVE </p><p>?????????˵? ???????ö???Ѵ????? ????֡????Դ????е??˹觴?ҹ???º???? ??????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ???ŷ?? ?????? ???? ?ö ?????? ????ѹ???? B2 B5 V-POWER ??ǹ???ա???֡?????˹觴?ҹ???º??????ѹ??? </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>??????ѹ???????õ? ????ԪҪվ ???ǡ????Ǻ?????? ???Դ????֡?ͧ valve ????е??˹觴?ҹ???º? ?????ѹ??? ?Ѻö???????? ??????? denso ??蹹?? scv Ẻ???ء?ѹ??š </p><p>?ҡ??ѡ?ҹ????֡???Դ?????д?ҹ???º??ͧ VALVE ??鹡???????˵ط????Ѵ??? </p><p>????֡???Դ???Թ????????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ??????? ?蹢ͧ????ѹ??????.... </p><p>- ???Ƿ????֧?? ??û???¢??? ??餹??ѧ?????㨼Դ?Դ??? ö??????? ????Դ?ҡ???ٺ ???????鹢????? ?Դ?ҡ????????ѹ B5 ?? ??????ͧԺ?´?????ѡ?Է????ʵ??ѹ??Ѻ..... </p><p>???????? ˹?ҷ??ͧ ????ѹ??????ԧ ???Ũ???˹?ҷ?????? 3 ??С?ä?? </p><p>1 ?к?¤????????????ǹ?ͧ??????????ԧ???????? ???Ǵ??¤????????٧???Դ???????Դ??? ?? ????ѹ??????ԧ?繵???к? ¤????????????ǹ?????????? </p><p>2 ????ѹ??????ԧ ??˹?ҷ?? ? ?????????蹪????ǹ?????????? ??к??????ç?ѹ?٧ </p><p>?ѧ??? ??ʹ??? ????դس???ѵԡ????????蹷??ա??Ҵ??Ÿ????? ?֧??ͧ?????????ա??? </p><p>3 ??˹?ҷ??????????ԧ????ѧ?ҹ㹡?âѺ????.. ... </p><p>??觷???????͡ѹ ??? " ?????ʹ??? B5 ???Ƿ????????ͧ??????Ǿѧ ???ҡ???ٺ ???????? start ?Դ?ҡ ????ͧ??? ?ҴѺ ???" </p><p>??????????躹???෨??ԧ??Ѻ ???? </p><p>1 ?س???ѵԡ????????? ??ʹ??? B5 ?ա??? ????ѹ???Ÿ????? </p><p>2 ????ѹ???Թ??ҷ????????ŧ????ͧ?????繹???ѹ? ?? </p><p>????????Ҷ֧???Ǽշ?駷???????????ͧ??? ??????Ҷ١????????? ????ѹ???蹡ѹ??Ѻ ??????????????ѹ ??ҡ??????????????ҹ???ѹ˹?ҵ? ???????ҧ?? ????????ͧ?????? ???? ?Դ?ѭ?Ң?? ??Ҩ֧?? ????ѹ???? </p><p>??Сͺ?Ѻ??û???¢?????ͷ??Դ???͡?Ҩҡ????ѷö?? ?Ҵ?????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ??Ѻ </p><p>???й?ö????ٹ???к͡??? ????Դ?ҡ?? ?ٺ?Ѻ ?????? ?????? ? ?????ʹ??? </p><p>?ٹ????µ?Һ͡??? VIGO ????ͧ?Ѻ?????? B 5 </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: Lime"><b>?š?÷??ͺ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ??ʹ??? 5 ( Lubricity Property) </b></span></p><p><span style="color: Lime"><b>???? ?դ?ҡ???֡??? 334 ???? </b></span></p><p><span style="color: Lime"><b>???? ??ʹ??? 5 % ?դ?ҡ???֡??? 194 ???? </b></span></p><p>ࡳ???ҵðҹ ?ͧ?????áԨ??ѧ?ҹ????????ҵðҹ???ǡѹ?????? ? ??ҡ???֡?е?ͧ????Թ 460 </p><p><br /></p><p>???ͺ??: ʶҺѹ????????????觻?????? </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>http://<a href="http://www.bangchak..../font></u></a> </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: lime">?? Ҩ????????? ?ҡ??÷??ͺ?ͧʶҺѹ???????????觻?????? ?о???? </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">??ҡ???֡??ͨҡ????????ѹ B 5 ?դ?? 194 ???? </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">????դ?ҡ???֡????¡??? </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">????ѹ???? ?????? ????դ?ҡ???֡????٧?֧ 334 ???? </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">?·?????ѹ??? ?ͧ ?????? ??鹡?????ö </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">??ҹࡳ???ҵðҹ?ͧ?????áԨ??ѧ?ҹ </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">??????ҵðҹ???ǡѺ?????š ????˹???? ??ҡ???֡??ͨе?ͧ ???¡??? 460 ??????Ѻ </span></p><p><span style="color: lime">( 㹡?÷??ͺ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ??? ??Ҩ??????Ѵ????֡??ͷ???Դ??? ?ҡ?֡?????ʴ???? ?դس???ѵԡ????????蹷??? ???ࡳ???ҵðҹ HFRR ??????????????ö ?Ѵ??äس???ѵ???????蹢ͧ????ѹ???µç....) </span></p><p><br /></p><p>??Ф?? ?ѧ????ǹ?? ?繤?ҷ????㹡???͡Ẻö¹???Ѻ </p><p><br /></p><p>?ѧ??? ??Ҩ??????? </p><p>????֡??ͷ??Դ???Ԣͧ scv ?????????Դ?ҡ ?س???ѵԡ?????? </p><p>??蹢ͧ????ѹ ???? B2 B5 V-POWER ??????????ѹ????ء?ѹ??Ѻ </p><p><br /></p><p>???ҡ?Դ?ҡ ??ͧ?ͧ???ǡ? DENSO ????ͧ??Ѻ </p><p>???Ѻ?¹?? ???????ѹ B5 ????Ѻ?һ? </p><p>???ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ????Դ??鹨ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ? ?Ҵ???ҧ?????ç </p><p>???ҧ???????㨼Դ??餹?·??ǻ???? ??Ф?????š </p><p>????حҵ?Ժ?????ͤ??????㨷??١??ͧ??????? 稨?ԧ????Դ??鹤?? </p><p>1 ????֡??ͷ???Դ??鹷?? ?ͧ scv ? ?м?Ǵ?ҹ???º???ҹ?? ??????֡???ͺǧ??? ??????˵ط????Ѵ????? ????֡????Դ?????????????˵??Ҩҡ ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ???? ???Դ?ҡ ??ͼԴ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç 㹡???͡Ẻ ??????ѷ?ټ?Ե DENSO ? ?????ѹ B5 ?????Ѻ?һ ? </p><p>2 ?????ҷ?ҹ?????????ѹ ???Դ????֡?д?ҹ???º??ء?ѹ ????????ҡ???ٺ??ТѺ?????????ء?ѹ ?????繢?ͼԴ??Ҵ?ҡ????͡ Ẻ ????ǧ??????š".. </p><p>.. </p><p>3 ?????? ???ͧ?? ?ҡ??ٻ????ͧ??????????? ????ҹ?Դ?ح??ҵ??˹? off ???? start ???? ????ͧ?С?Ѻ?һ?????????????????Դ??? ???? ʻ?ԧ?????????? valve ???? valve ???Դ????㹡?Ѻ?ҵ??˹觻??Ԥ?Ѻ ö??ҹ? ֧ ??Ѻ?һ??? ????ҡ???ö??? 0 ???????˵?????ͤ?Ѻ ???е??ҹ???ö??? 0 valve ?ѹ???Դ </p><p>4 ?ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç??? ????? ö??????????????Ǣͧ denso ??蹹?? ?????Ҩ??? VIGO FORTUNER INNOVA D-MAX TRITON ?ء?ѹ?ͻѭ???ٺ ?ء?ѹ??Ѻ ????????Ѻ???Тͧ????֡ ????ѵ?ҡ???֡ ?¾???? ?ö??????? ??Ѻ???ѵ?ҡ???֡????ҡ????ö?????? ö????ҧ?ѹ??????? 15000-20000 ?????Դ?ҡ???ٺ?Ѻ????.... </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>6 ??????ͧ ????ѧ???¤?û?г??㹾ĵԡ????ͧ ????ѷ DENSO ??? ?ͺ???ͧ????¹ ? scv ?ҡ???? 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[QUOTE="TFR-oldschool, post: 906107, member: 485"]!!!!!!!!!??ʹ??? B5 ????Ѻ?һ? ?ͧ?ҡ?? ??ٺ ?Ѻ ???ö??觔?????ͧ ??????? DENSO(VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON?) [url]http://www.oknation.net/blog/preecha.../09/12/entry-1[/url] 1 ??????????¶֧?????ö??????Ǣͧ DENSO ..... VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX, TRITON..... ?֧?ҡ?? ? ?ٺ ???????? ?????????͢?С?Ѻö " ??ٻ????ͧ??? ????Դ????繨ӹǹ?ҡ ????ҡ?ù???Ѻ??辺?ö????? ???? BOSCH ?? FORD MAZDA 2 ?????ʹ͢???稨?ԧ??? ? ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ?????????͢?С?Ѻö ? ??????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ ????ѹ??ʹ??? B5 ???????ҧ??褹??ѧ????ǹ?˭????? ???Դ?ҡ ??ͺ????ͧ?ҡ????͡Ẻ ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ ?????ç ?ͧ????ѷ DENSO ????????ѹ B 5 ?????Ѻ?һ???ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ ?ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç?ͧ???ǡ? DENSO 3 ????"??е?鹵????Ե?ӹ֡?ͧ????ѷ DENSO ??? TOYOTA" ????? ?Ե?ӹ֡ ?????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ѧ?? ?Corporate Social Responsibility? ????? ??? ? ?š??âͧ????ѷ ? ?Ӥѭ?ҡ???? ? ???Ե?ͧ?١???" 4 ?ѧ???¤?û?г?? 㹾ĵԡ????ͧ ????ѷ DENSO ???????Ե?????? " ?ѵ?췴?ͧ" ??繤س??? "???Ե?ͧ???? ???¡??? ˹ٷ??ͧ??" ???ͺ???ͧ????¹ valve ? scv ?ҡ???? 4-5 Ẻ????????????????ö ????Һ ??觷????ö ? ?ٺ ???????? ??????" 5 ?ͤ??????????㹡?? ???????·???ѧ ???????ö??Ҷ֧?????????? ? ???Ե?ͧ????" ?դ???ҡ???? "?š??âͧ????ѷö ? ?ҡ??÷??????ö¹????? ?к???????Ǣͧ DENSO (VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON...) ??Ǩ???ҡ?? ??ٺ???????鹢????? ??? ??Ѻö ???ѹ??????ͺʹͧʵ??췵Դ?ҡ????ͧ????ҴѺ "??ٻ????ͧ¹??????繨ӹǹ?ҡ??? - ????ҡ????????鹢ͧ?ҡ?? VALVE ?SCV ?Դ?Ѵ ??Ǩ?ͺ???ͧ????ѧ??? 1 östart ?Դ?ҡ ????º?ѹ??觶֧?? start ?Դ ???Ҥѹ??觨дѺ????Ѵ?ͺ?????ԧ???ŧ 2 ?????§????ͧ¹??Դ???Ԣ?? start ???§?ѧ "?? ??" ???????§?????ࢡ ??????º?ѹ??????§??????? ???????ͧ?ҡVALVE ? SCV ???????Դ?Ѵ????? "???????ö?ѡ???дѺ?ç?ѹ????ѹ??ҧ??????? ??餧????? 30 MPa ????ͺ?Թ??" -?繷?????ѧࡵ??? ?о??ҡ?Ô?ٺ????????? ?Ѻö??????????????Ƿ???Ե?ҡ????ѷ DENSO (?ҡ???ٺ????Դ??鹡Ѻö??????????????? ?ͧBOSCH ?? FORD MAZDA ??駷??ö??????????ѹ B5) (DENSO ?????Ԣ?Է??? ?к? ??????? ?Ҩҡ BOSCH ??ë????Ԣ?Է????繡?ë??? 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TOYOTA (VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,COMMUTOR) -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa ISUZU (D-MAX , MU7) -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش 180 Mpa MITSUBISHI (TRITON) -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش180 Mpa ??ǹ??????????Ţͧ BOSCH (MAZDA,FORD) - BOSCH Cp3 ??3?١?ٺ?????ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa (??з?????????????????????繵?????ҧ?ͧ?????ҹ ??????????ŢͧBOSCH *** ????? b100??ͧ???Ѻ??÷??ͺ???????ǡ?) ????? ??Ҥ???ͧ?ҷӤ??????ѡ?Ѻ??? SCV (SUCTION CONTROL VALVE) ?ѹ??..... ?ҡ?ٻ??ҹ?? ???ٻ ?ͧ DENSO ????????ö VIGO ,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON..... SCV ?? ??˹?ҷ??? ????ҳ????ѹ???١?ٴ?ҡ?ѧ????ѹ ??ҹ??ͧ???? ???ͻ?????ҳ ????ѹ ???????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????ҧ??????? ?¡??????????????????ҳ????ѹ???????????? ?? ?Դ?ҡ??????????Ẻ SLIDING ?ͧ VALVE ? SCV ?Ǻ????Ҩҡ ecu ???º??º ??????㨧????? ??? scv ?????? ??еٹ?? 㹺?ҹ??? ???????ç??ҧ?????ҧ TANK ?纹?? ??л?????? ???ͤǺ???????ҳ??? ??????????????????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????????????͡??? 㹺?ҹ(??ǩմ) ?չ??????? scv ?ѹ?Դ??????????Դ?Ѵ????? ?֧????? ???˹? ?ͧ valve ? SCV ????㹵??˹觷???????????? ?????Ѻ??еٹ?ӷ???ҹ??? ??? VALVE ?ѹ??ҧ ???????չ????ż?ҹ????㹻??? ??????оѧ?? ??? VALVE ? scv ???????ѹ????ѹ?Դ?Ѵ ?ҡ????֡???Դ????(?֡?д?ҹ???º?) ?֧??????ջ???ҳ????ѹ?????һ??????????????Ѻ ?????????ͺ??? LOAD ?֧??????Դ ?ç?ѹ?????????ҧ??????ǹ??¡????ç?ѹ??????? ?Դ??( ABNORMAL PRESSURE) ??? ....PRESSURE SENSOR ??????躹?ҧ?֧???ѭ?ҳ价?? ECU ?֧?????ٻ????ͧ??? < /FONT> ??ʶҹ??ó?????Դ " ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ??? ??ٻ????ͧ???" ??? ?ҡ??? RESEARCH ????? ?Դ????ʶҹ??ó? 1 ???ѹ?????????? 2 ???ѹ????͡?ҡ?? 3 ???ѹ??觵??Ѻö 4 ????Թ?ѹ ??? 5 START ?Դ?ҡ ????ͧ??? ?ҴѺ ??ͧ???ѹ??觨֧ START ?Դ ??ǹ?˭? ?о???? ??ٻ????ͧ??? ???????? ???ͧ?ҡ ??????ҡ??ѹ??觹?? ??ҵ?ͧ????ç?Դ?ҡ????ͧ ecu sensor ???˹觤ѹ??? ????????? valve ? scv ?Դ ?ҡ???????????ջ???ҳ????ѹ????һ????ҡ??? ?? scv ?ѹ?ѹ?Դ?Ѵ???ͧ?ҡ ? ????֡?д?ҹ???º? ? ?֧????? ?ջ???ҳ????ѹ???任??????????????????????????? ͺ ?֧ ???????????ç?ѹ价???ҧ ??????? ???¡??? ???????( DESIRED) pressure sensor (1) ???? ??躹?ҧ?? monitor (real time fuel pressure) ????ѹ?Ѻ????? ?ç?ѹ???¡?????????? ?֧???ѭ?ҳ??Ѻ价?? ecu ?????ż? ??Т???? 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B 5 ???????????????Ѻ..... ???ҧ???????㨼Դ??餹?·?駻???????µ?ʹ..... ?ҡ?˵ؼ? ?ѧ????Ǣ?ҧ?? ?֧??????ͧ ????դ?????????觴?ǹ ??褹?·ء?Ң??Ҫվ ???е?ͧ??????͡ѹ??Ш?¢?????â????Ź?? ???????ö??????ҹ?ѹ???Ѻ??Һ ?????Ҷ֧?????? ?????Ѻ??駤?????????·????Դ??鹡Ѻ???? ?ء?? ??????ͻ???ª??ͧ??ЪҪ?????ǹ??? ?ʹ?????? credit ??? cefiro thailand ?Ѻ ?բ?????????????ա ?ǡ?ٻ????͡??õ?ҧ? ?????????¤Ѻ [url]http://www.cefiro-thailand.com/showthread.php?t=14847[/url][/QUOTE]
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